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Why should I use virtual memory ?

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Hello experts.

 

I'm SAP beginner.

Now I'm reading some paper about memory parameter.

I found the physical memory is distributed to OS and DB, but roll area, extend memory, private memory is work on virtual memory.

I aleady know that physical memory is faster and more expensive than virtual memory (HDD).

 

But when I read that paper, private memory and extend memory were not that huge.

I was just about 8GB ~ 10GB. I thought it was not expensive ! Just a person can buy it.

 

So I confused.

Is there any difference between physical memory and virtual memory ?

I don't know the reason that I have to use vitual memory for private memory, extend memory, roll area.

 

Can you explain to me or introduce the SAP notes about this issue ?

 

Thank you

 

Regards,

Oh


Re: Why should I use virtual memory ?

Re: Why should I use virtual memory ?

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Hi

 

You can refer the SAP Note 88416 Zero administration memory management for the ABAP server

 

BR

SS

Re: Upgrade SAP ECC 6.0 system

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Hi,

 

do NOT install SAP onto this new server yet

Here Matt suggested this to you just because of, during system copy procedure (Homogeneous system copy ) the tool will automatically stop &  will ask to restore the backup & install the things for you.

So you need not to install SAP onto the new server.

 

Hope this will help you.

 

Regards,

Re: Upgrade SAP ECC 6.0 system

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Kalimera Stillianos,

 

First of all, I would recommend Oracle Upgrade of your original system.  Since your original system 10.2.0.4 and you want to have a system with 11.2, it would be safer when you first upgrade your database to 11.2 and then execute system copy. It would guarantee consistency of your system.

 

So my steps sequence would be:

 

1.a Upgrade your DB from 10.2.0.4. to 11.2

1.b  Install on a new SAP system Windows 2012 R2 x64 with oracle 11.2 and sap ecc 6.0 with EHP6. It's the template for system copy.

2. Install patches for kernel and applications.

3. Perform an homogeneous system copy from the old system.

4. Upgrade

 

Best regards,

Serhat

Re: Upgrade SAP ECC 6.0 system

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He can't do a system copy from an ERP 6.00 system to an existing ERP 6.06 system, and that installation is pointless. He doesn't need to install anything SAP-wise on the target server ahead of the system copy (other than perhaps diagnostics agent, but that can also be done afterwards). The system copy will install the ERP system, then he can do the SAP upgrade afterwards.

 

But, you are correct that the system copy must be from and to the same release of Oracle (this is the not the case with SQL Server, with which I work -- a backup from a downlevel database can be restored to an upgraded system, and then the system copy procedure will update its compatibility level). So, an Oracle in-place upgrade needs to happen on the source system (11.2 is supported on Win2003 and with ERP 6.00, but 10.2 is not supported on Win2012R2).

 

So, steps are:

  1. In-place upgrade of Oracle on source server.
  2. Extract backup, etc, from source system per the homogeneous system copy guide.
  3. Install new server with Win2012R2 and Oracle 11.2 (no SAP installation at this time).
  4. Run "install target system" steps of system copy (per the guide), which will prompt for the Oracle restore using the backup you created earlier. This will install ERP 6.00.
  5. Upgrade target system to EhP6.

 

Because you are not changing the OS or DBMS platform, just upgrading them, this is still a homogeneous system copy.

Re: Upgrade SAP ECC 6.0 system

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Matt can you send me the link to the system copy guide you are referring to.

 

I suspect that there are different methods for homogeneous system copy procedure.

 

Thanks.

Re: Upgrade SAP ECC 6.0 system

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http://service.sap.com/instguides -> SAP NetWeaver -> SAP NetWeaver 7.0 (2004s) -> Installation -> 2 - Installation - SAP NetWeaver Systems -> System Copy: Systems Based on SAP NetWeaver 7.0/7.0 EHPs (note, may need to open this particular link in a new tab) -> Windows: ABAP. This opens the System Copy Guide: SAP Systems Based on the Application Server ABAP of SAP NetWeaver on Windows: Valid for SAP NetWeaver 7.0 to 7.0 Including Enhancement Package 3 (document version 1.7 - 2014-11-24). Within the guide you can find chapter 5 for Database-Specific System Copy and chapter 5.1 for Oracle-Specific Procedure.


Re: Upgrade SAP ECC 6.0 system

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Hi Matt,

 

Yes, that's correct. There is no need to install new ERP 6.06 system. Just go ahead with system copy.

 

Regards,

Serhat

Re: Upgrade SAP ECC 6.0 system

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Hi

 

Before starting the homogeneous system copy, kindly check the PAM your current ECC 6 system supported windows 2012 with Oracle DB or not? Could you share your support package release?

 

 

To find the system copy guide you use the link http://service.sap.com/guidefinder - select your OS / DB & SAP version

 

Br

SS

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Reg: Solaris 10 to windows 2012

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Dear All,

 

We are migrating our landscape  from Solaris 10 to windows 2012 but the database oracle 11.2 remain same  , we planning to use  SWPM system copy method  ,  What are all the prerequisites and post import process steps needs to be done.

 

 

 

Regards,

RK

Re: Reg: Solaris 10 to windows 2012

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Hi Kishore,

 

 

migrating our landscape  from Solaris 10 to windows 2012 but the database oracle 11.2 remain same

 

For the scenario you need to refer SAP Heterogeneous system copy methods,i would suggest you to refer SAP doc at http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/30275a6a-6f26-3010-468b-a908b6b0c797?QuickLink=index&…

 

& http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/cd76e07d-0c01-0010-298d-f699863f2ce4?overridelayout=t…

 

 

Hope this will help you.Also request you to kindly close the previous thread if resolved Reg: SUM issue While upgrading SP12  

 

Regards,

Re: Reg: Solaris 10 to windows 2012

Change in Host Name in SAP 4.7 R/3 Environment

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Hi Friends,

 

We are running SAP 4.7 R/3 in our office with two servers production and development. Production Server with hostname :- production-2 & SID - "PRD" and Development Server with hostname :- hpserver & SID - "TES"

 

 

Recently, our development server crashed...

 

 

I installed SAP 4.7 R/3 in new hardware server with hostname as "DEVELOPMENT" & SID as "TES". Successfully restored oracle database from old development server and further applied SAP license key.

 

 

Today night, we are taking the new development server alive, my question is will there be any problems because of change in hostname (from old development server with hostname:-hpserver to new development server with hostname:-development) ???

 

 

 

Regards,

 

 

M Sridhar Srinivas

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Failed to update service environment from user... in Windows Event Log.

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Hallo guys,

 

I am new to SAP Systems and SCN, so I hope my post is right here.

I have got a SAP IDES System running an Windows Server 2008 (SP2) Enterprise Edition.

This Server is a mamber of an Domain.

When I start the Windows Server I can see an SAP specific Error in the Windows Event Log under Applications.

The error ist following:

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Failed to update service environment from user (SAPIDES\hp2adm) environment. [ntservmgr.cpp 222]

Source: SAPHP2_01

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After start of the System in the SAP MMC I get further errors in syslog in the SAP MMC:

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SAP-Basis System: Operating system call  gethostbyname failed (error no. 11004)

USER: DDIC

Programm: SAPMSSY1

Process Type: D0

 

SAP-Basis System: Operating system call  gethostbyname failed (error no. 11004)

USER: DDIC

Programm: SAPMSSY1

Process Type: B13

 

Communications data: Could not send SLD data

Programm: RSLDAGDS

Process Type: B13

 

SAPIDES is the name of the System and hp2adm is a local user on this server.

The IDES System can be started and I can also log in to the System.

At the moment I don't know where to start the error analysis.

Please tell me if you need additional information.

 

Greetings

Martin

Re: Change in Host Name in SAP 4.7 R/3 Environment

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Hi Sridhar,

 

This should be fine, assuming you used the homogeneous system copy to achieve migrating the system to the new hardware. The biggest change you will have to make is in STMS, making sure the hostname is correct and consistent in your transport landscape. You also need to ensure that your production system correctly references the new hostname via the alias SAPTRANSHOST, and that it has the correct privileges to the \usr\sap\trans directory on the new development system (assuming your development system is your transport controller).

 

Obviously, SAP Logon entries on clients that use the development server will need to be updated.

 

Otherwise, it depends on what you have for interfaces. If your interfaces reference the hostname for some reason, either via variants or (hopefully not) hard-coded, or from external configuration, those will need to be updated.

 

Regards,

Matt

Re: Failed to update service environment from user... in Windows Event Log.

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Hi Martin,

 

Welcome to SCN!

 

As you probably know, the SAP service at the OS level runs under the user context SAPService<SID>, i.e. since your SID is HP2, the service user will be SAPServiceHP2. Furthermore, you have a second user, hp2adm, which is the OS-level "administrative" user. hp2adm is intended for user logins on the server console, for the purpose of things like running SAPMMC, etc, whereas SAPServiceHP2 is a system user for running the SAPHP2_00, SAPHP2_01, etc, services, and not intended for direct user login.

 

So, there is a clever mechanism that the SAP start service uses to take the Windows user environment from hp2adm -- i.e., environment variables like DBMS_TYPE, MSSQL_SCHEMA, PATH, etc -- and 'copy' them to the SAPServiceHP2 environment each time the service is started.

 

For this to happen, a few things need to be correctly setup for both users. Normally, these two users are domain users, yet you mentioned that hp2adm, at least, is a local user. That can be made to work, but it's not the standard configuration. Normally, the installation is done with a domain administrator account, so that the installer can setup the Active Directory global groups as well as the two domain users. However, you can setup the users and groups in AD ahead of time, and then use a local administrator account to do the install. The installation guide has a sub-chapter on installing without being a domain administrator that details this strategy (and it's the strategy I use in my organization).

 

So, my guess is something about the setup of the service users and groups is not correctly configured, and it may be related to how you did the install, and to using local users instead of domain users. Using local users is not a supported option, by the way.

 

To remedy it, I would stop the system, delete (or rename) the local users, then at the domain level create the users again, plus the group SAP_HP2_GlobalAdmin, and add the users to the group. Then at the local level create the groups SAP_LocalAdmin and SAP_HP2_LocalAdmin (these may already exist from your installation), and add the domain group to both of these. If they already existed, you should be good to go, but if not, you'll need to ensure they have privileges to the saploc and sapmnt shares and the \usr\sap folders. Add hp2adm to local Administrators (you don't need to add SAPServiceHP2). Make sure that SAPServiceHP2 has Log on as a service set in local policies (gpedit.msc).

 

I think that should do it.

 

Regards,

Matt

Re: Failed to update service environment from user... in Windows Event Log.

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Hi Matt

 

to be precise:

Every Start operation in MMC or sapcontrol will wipe and recopy the environment variables of the sidadm user.

 

Just starting the service will have no effect on it.

 

Furthermore I would use the SAPInst Rename Service to move a local installation to a domain installation (in place).

There are some more things to do (especially some very special security settings of files in the instance\sec directories) in order to get it running again.

 

regards

 

Peter

Re: Failed to update service environment from user... in Windows Event Log.

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hi,

 

I would prefer to get a more complete picture of your installation.

We differentiate between a local or a domain based installation.

A local installation is using a account created on the computer to run the system a domain installation is using a domain account.

 

Typically you should use a domain account running your system, because the system will normally interact with other computers on file system level (remote file access). When using a domain based configuration this is easy to administrate - if you are using computer accounts it will get a nightmare the get this beast configured and running). Unfortunately a lot of people installing SAP Systems did not read our recommendations or did not understand the difference of a domain and local account and end up with a local installation.

 

Can you please provide following information (output of commands running in an elevated cmd.exe under account hpdadm):

 

  1. hostname
  2. sc.exe qc SAPHP2_01 
    --> SERVICE_START_NAME : NT5\SAPServiceXXL
    contains the information about the used account - a computername or "." in front of the account name does indicate a local installation, a domainname at this position indicate a domain installation.
  3. dir c:\users
    (the directory names will tell us whether there is some confusion about computer/domain accounts)

In below mentioned section computer or domain in front of a group name indicates that the right entry depends on the installation type (domain --> you have to use the domain name here, computer --> you need to use the computername here).

 

User Right Assignment Restore Files and Directories:

  • in above cmd.exe start secpol.msc
  • open Local Policies - User Rights Assignment
  • double click on the policy "restore Files and directories" and report us the users, which have this right assigned (computer or domain\SAP_HP2_GlobalAdmin or computer\SAP_SID_LocalAdmin or computer or domain\SAPServiceHP2 must have this right)

 

Access Control List of Registry Keys:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\SAP\HP2

  • run regedit.exe in above cmd.exe
  • open HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\SAP\HP2
  • rightclick on the Environment key and Select Permissions
    • report the permissions defined for this registry key (Domain or computer\SAP_HP2_GlobalAdmin or computer\SAP_HP2_Localadmin must have full control on this key)

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Environment (you need to be logged in with the right hp2adm (domain/local). This user must also be specified in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HP2\AdmUser)

  • run regedit.exe in above cmd.exe
  • open HKEY_CURRENT_USER
  • rightclick on the Environment key and select Permissions
    • SAP_HP2_LocalAdmin group needs to have Read Access on this Registry Key.

 

This should do the job.

 

regards

 

Peter

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